Elementary school expulsion, that’s so easy?

Hello,
perhaps here is any teacher or a teacher who is familiar with the legal aspect of such an approach.
The son of my Lebensgefдhrtin noticed hдufiger in the last 3 1/2 years of schooling by inappropriate behavior, there was Gesprдche, but never anything has been sent in writing to do so.

Can a school remove a schoolboys without any prior written admonition?
We live in NRW in Gelsenkirchen.
To my knowledge, still running at least to my school days according to certain rules from.
3 = blame a reference and
3 = 1 references expulsion
However, that may well now be completely different and closed for primary schools already covered by other regulations.

I wдre grateful closed for some info.
many GrьЯe
Ad hoc

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Hello,
Although we live in Ba Wь and not in NRW. Grundsдtzlilch an expulsion is mцgllich at basic schools. Parents mьssen darьber be notified in writing in advance. Which is usually before a Gesprдch between schools and parents takes place. Since then, the parents usually know already mьndlich notice and the written then follows after that.
A Grundschьler can not be sent so easily in the morning from home to school. The care muЯ indeed be saved. Because not all parents are always at home all day.
As the school is going on as a matter of discretion of the school and also hдngt the offense of / the schoolboys / in from.
Andrea

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Quote by Ad hocHello,
perhaps here is any teacher or a teacher who is familiar with the legal aspect of such an approach.
The son of my Lebensgefдhrtin noticed hдufiger in the last 3 1/2 years of schooling by inappropriate behavior, there was Gesprдche, but never anything has been sent in writing to do so.

Can a school remove a schoolboys without any prior written admonition?
We live in NRW in Gelsenkirchen.
To my knowledge, still running at least to my school days according to certain rules from.
3 = blame a reference and
3 = 1 references expulsion
However, that may well now be completely different and closed for primary schools already covered by other regulations.

I wдre grateful closed for some info.
many GrьЯe
Ad hocIn NRW in the GS, there is no blame or references in the legal sense.
About a school exclusion (I suspect that you mean with expulsion) ultimately determines the class conference. That's rector, class teacher, possibly subject teachers + parents' representatives closed for the Class Council.
Since nothing written has come into serious Fдllen before. Insbeosndere if already Gesprдche have run before and the child's behavior was known.

I wьrde still appeal, because with a school exclusion is not enough. Since it must be looked for Lцsungen before.
it is a temporary or a permanent exclusion (which goes nдmlich so nciht easy)?

GruЯ JoGa

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Thank closed for your info,
now I'm a little calmer, a friend since the occupationally little idea about, has also said that you can not throw without Vorankьndigung from school him. It also wдre total Blцdsinn yes, schlieЯlich the school year is over in a few months and he then goes on anyway weiterfьhrende school. Such a forced change of the primary school "on the last few meters" wдre closed for his problems not just fцrderlich.
What he has done is certainly not have been in order, first he has a few weeks ago the shoes in the shower put a child out of revenge, which were then back and he had to pay from his savings account, after the incident was then actually done, the director of the school but has informed us in Gesprдch that this was inevitably the last time that he lдsst the pass unpunished him.
Unfortunately, now it came a few weeks later to a scuffle in the schoolyard, where he held a boy who wanted to run away at the shirt, this riЯ it. On the same day he had from the day school to home because he had thrown with the cushions from the comfort zone around.
In the lesson, he told us the teacher had said to him before the assembled class, it does not matter to him how and where he would make his life in the future, at his elementary school at least nothing more dafьr he wьrde care.
Strong stuff closed for a child of 10 years ...
I do not weiЯ also, I understand natьrlich the Mьtter of other children who want their child safe and to heal things from school comes home, but you have to have a try to see that it is safe terribly wдre closed for him, the few dьrftigen social contacts he has for his Auffдlligkeiten, then even losing by a forced change of school.
Sometimes I'm schцn despair and wonder how this is going to end in the long run.
Love GrьЯe
Ad hoc

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with us there must be at least 3schriftliche warning letters to elterngesprдche with and without school management - only then can be ruled out at this device in certain fдllen the kind of teaching ... u.u. is the youth office, the education assistance etc. before also involved!

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Love ad hoc,
in addition to the legal side, which - in my opinion - not the easiest side of the coin is, it's still here rather the OBVIOUS problems of your Son.

You yourself write:
I do not weiЯ also, I understand natьrlich the Mьtter of other children who want their child safe and to heal things from school comes home, but you have to have a try to see that it is safe terribly wдre closed for him, the few dьrftigen social contacts he has for his Auffдlligkeiten, then even losing by a forced change of school.

I can only advise you to seek help at a psychological counseling center closed for your son. for his "ungebьhrliches behavior" (You rдcht not wдssern by shoes - and you do not tug at Kleidungsstьcken other children - and I am assuming that more Vorfдlle were) has Grьnde that lie in your familiдren situation. There is no shame to seek help when you come to a point where you can not lцsen a problem of their own child, and perhaps may not even realize.

I assume that the welfare of your child you is more important than the supposed shame: "I have failed as a mother",

There are many facilities where you can show your son behaviors that ermцglicht him a peaceful and friendly coexistence with its then new Mitschьlern.
GruЯ
CH

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Quote by Ad hocHello,
perhaps here is any teacher or a teacher who is familiar with the legal aspect of such an approach.
The son of my Lebensgefдhrtin noticed hдufiger in the last 3 1/2 years of schooling by inappropriate behavior, there was Gesprдche, but never anything has been sent in writing to do so.

Can a school remove a schoolboys without any prior written admonition?
We live in NRW in Gelsenkirchen.
To my knowledge, still running at least to my school days according to certain rules from.
3 = blame a reference and
3 = 1 references expulsion
However, that may well now be completely different and closed for primary schools already covered by other regulations.

I wдre grateful closed for some info.
many GrьЯe
Ad hocYes, in elementary school, a suspension is mцglich. If the child's behavior was so inappropriate that it z. As other children or teacher has gefдhrdet, a schoolboys closed for a certain, set by the school can be made. Since such actions are usually taken from the previous situation, it will be promptly decided by the class teacher and the school management. The parents will be informed immediately and schnellstmцglich. In general, they are asked unverzьglich to school.

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Love kamuffel2,
it's not my son, it is, as written above, the son of my Lebensgefдhrtin.
Neither my Lebensgefдhrtin (the boy's mother) nor do I deny the problem, clearly this is obvious, so obvious that I am not afraid here in a forum to report it and bring me advice!
As you could see from my post, the question was based on the legal aspect of the incident, I would like to take this opportunity to thank those who have contributed enlightening.
I am the mother of the boy now for almost a year together, so I know certainly not lдngst all Vorfдlle this kind, but suppose at times that he has almost continuously behave so poorly, this is also to remove all previous products.
Help and support my girlfriend for years, it has various activities such as educational counseling and child psychiatrists / psychologists ready by are demnдchst both a clinic visit, so it's not so that nothing happens and we wьrden approve that he stirring up other children or schдdigt in other ways!
But what wьrde times very interested to know your statement wдre " it lдge in the family situation begrьndet"... You should refer the fact that my girlfriend and I live a lesbian, then I can only strongly advise you unzeitgemдЯe, vorurteilsьberfrachte views on ьberdenken, lesbians and gays are not worse parents and they have an average of just auffдllige or unauffдllige children as heterosexuals couples also, darьber there are now a lot of glaubwьrdigem material. I see that my girlfriend with her husband the child "has moved in front of the wall"In nine years, a perfectly ordinary brave hetero marriage and family, which has met all standards bьrgerlichen at least according to exterior projector!

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Quote by Ad hocLove kamuffel2,
it's not my son, it is, as written above, the son of my Lebensgefдhrtin.
Neither my Lebensgefдhrtin (the boy's mother) nor do I deny the problem, clearly this is obvious, so obvious that I am not afraid here in a forum to report it and bring me advice!
As you could see from my post, the question was based on the legal aspect of the incident, I would like to take this opportunity to thank those who have contributed enlightening.
I am the mother of the boy now for almost a year together, so I know certainly not lдngst all Vorfдlle this kind, but suppose at times that he has almost continuously behave so poorly, this is also to remove all previous products.
Help and support my girlfriend for years, it has various activities such as educational counseling and child psychiatrists / psychologists ready by are demnдchst both a clinic visit, so it's not so that nothing happens and we wьrden approve that he stirring up other children or schдdigt in other ways!
But what wьrde times very interested to know your statement wдre " it lдge in the family situation begrьndet"... You should refer the fact that my girlfriend and I live a lesbian, then I can only strongly advise you unzeitgemдЯe, vorurteilsьberfrachte views on ьberdenken, lesbians and gays are not worse parents and they have an average of just auffдllige or unauffдllige children as heterosexuals couples also, darьber there are now a lot of glaubwьrdigem material. I see that my girlfriend with her husband the child "has moved in front of the wall"In nine years, a perfectly ordinary brave hetero marriage and family, which has met all standards bьrgerlichen at least according to exterior projector!Sorry, but you wrote:
"... I can advise you only to seek help at a psychological counseling center closed for your son. for his "ungebьhrliches behavior" (You rдcht not wдssern by shoes - and you do not tug at Kleidungsstьcken other children - and I am assuming that more Vorfдlle were) has Grьnde that lie in your familiдren situation. There is no shame to seek help when you come to a point where you can not lцsen a problem of their own child, and perhaps may not even realize ..."

Do not you think you shoot something ьbers aim at? Me e.g. it was ьberhaupt not clear whether this is Mдnnchen or females, which writes here. And me it is great not care who etc ... with whom.
It's now definitely so that you have as a family problem, for whatever reason, and that's the child (which yes to God's will is NOT your son ...) it is not going well.
And there you have not found until now the Lцsung, help is urgently right of Nцten-?
Is it somehow important whether you are gay or not?
No.
It is important that the boy gets help. And because unfortunately the legal aspect of the matter is not sufficient alone.
What have shown your visits to the child psychologist?
Has been made a comprehensive, good diagnosis of the boy?
Atomium